Are we alone, not according to the bible.
The article contains a collection of text taken out of the bible about the ''The invisible world''.
It contradict the view of the science world and in line with many of us who have been and made contacts with people who did pass. Something is missing here.

The theory of mankind evolving from apes was proven wrong or impossible based on a new science being genome/DNA.
Now, many in the scientific community believe that the first life was formed as the result of a coincidental chemical interaction moldering up from some primordial ooze, others are quick to suggest that it only did happened on earth and are still searching for other life forms. In fact science has nothing coherent to offer if you look at life itself, must be outside there realm. What is suggested or claimed is laughable. Must have to do with the fact that it is materialistic in nature or simply
ignoring nature, life (force) itself and the relative importance of this spiritual presence.

Scripture.

THERE are two worlds, "the visible, and the invisible," as the Creed speaks, the world we see, and the world we do not see; and the world we do not see as really exists as the world we do see.
"While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen;
for the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal."
2 Cor. iv. 18.
For the world we see we know to exist, because we see it. We have but to lift up our eyes and look around us, and we have proof of it: our eyes tell us. We see the sun, moon and stars, earth and sky, hills and valleys, woods and plains, seas and rivers.
And again, we see men, and the works of men. We see cities, and stately buildings, and their inhabitants; men running to and fro, and busying themselves to provide for themselves and their families, or to accomplish great designs, or for the very business' sake.
All that meets our eyes forms the visible world. It is an immense world; it reaches to the stars.
Thousands on thousands of years might we speed up the sky, and though we were swifter than the light itself, we should not reach them all. They are at distances from us greater than any that is assignable. So high, so wide, so deep is the world; and yet it also comes near and close to us. It is every where; and it seems to leave no room for any other world.

And yet in spite of this universal world which we see, there is another invisible world, quite as far-spreading, quite as close to us, and more wonderful; another world all around us, though we see it not, and more wonderful than the world we see, for this reason if for no other, that we do not see it.

All around us are numberless objects, coming and going, watching, working or waiting, which we see not: this is that other world, which the eyes reach not unto, but faith only.

Let us dwell upon this thought.
We are born into a world of sense; that is, of the real things which lie round about us, one great department comes to us, accosts us, through our bodily organs, our eyes, ears, and fingers.
We feel, hear, and see them; and we know they exist, because we do thus perceive them.
Things innumerable lie about us, animate and in-animate; but one particular class of these innumerable things is thus brought home to us through our senses.
And moreover, while they act upon us, they make their presence known. We are sensible of them at the time, we are conscious that we perceive them.
We not only see, but know that we see them; we not only hold intercourse, but know that we do.
We are among men, and we know that we are.
We feel cold and hunger; we know what sensible things remove them. We eat, drink, clothe ourselves, dwell in houses, converse and act with others, and perform the duties of social life; and we feel vividly that we are doing so, while we do so.

Such is our relation towards one part of the innumerable beings which lie around us. They act
upon us, and we know it; and we act upon them in turn, and know we do.
But all this does not interfere with the existence of that other world which I speak of, acting upon us, yet not impressing us with the consciousness that it does so.
It may as really be present and exert an influence as that which reveals itself to us. And that such a world there is, Scripture tells us.

Do you ask what it is, and what it contains? I will not say that all that belongs to it is vastly more important than what we see, for among things visible are our fellow-men, and nothing created is more precious and noble than a son of man. But still, taking the things which we see altogether, and the things we do not see altogether, the world we do not see is on the whole a much higher world than that which we do see.

And in that other world are the souls also of the dead. They too, when they depart hence, do not cease to exist, but they retire from this visible scene of things; or, in other words, they cease to act towards us and before us through our senses.
They live as they lived before; but that outward frame, through which they were able to hold
communion with other men, is in some way, we know not how, separated from them, and dries away and shrivels up as leaves may drop off a tree. They remain, but without the usual means of approach towards us, and correspondence with us.
As when a man loses his voice or hand, he still exists as before, but cannot any longer talk or write, or otherwise hold intercourse with us; so when he loses not voice and hand only, but his whole frame, or is said to die, there is nothing to show that he is gone, but we have lost our means of apprehending him.

When, indeed, persons feel it so difficult to conceive the existence among us of the world of spirits, because they are not aware of it, they should recollect how many worlds all at once are in fact contained in human society itself.
We speak of the political world, the scientific, the learned, the literary, the religious world; and suitably: for men are so closely united with some men, and so divided from others, they have such distinct objects of pursuit one from another, and such distinct principles and engagements in consequence, that in one and the same place there exist together a number of circles or (as they may be called) worlds, made up of invisible men, but themselves invisible, unknown, nay, unintelligible to each other.
Men move about in the common paths of life, and look the same; but there is little community of feeling between them; each knows little about what goes on in any other sphere than his own; and a stranger coming into any neighborhood would, according to his own pursuits or acquaintances, go away with an utterly distinct, or a reverse impression of it, viewed as a whole. Or again, leave for a while the political and commercial excitement of some large city, and take refuge in a secluded village; and there, in the absence of news of the day, consider the mode of life and habits of
mind, the employment and views of its inhabitants; and say whether the world, when regarded in its separate portions, is not more unlike itself than it is unlike the world of Angels which Scripture places in the midst of it?

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tracalee wrote: In fact science has nothing coherent to offer


What do you believe, biblical myth or the proof of science?

The following is a true story.

In 1503, Christopher Columbus made his fourth voyage across the Atlantic, from Cadiz to San Salvador, the island northeast of Cuba he had previously discovered. Unfortunately, on the way to the “New World,” his ships got infested by worms that gradually ate the foundation of the vessels and make holes in the planks. On June 25, to avoid their demise and sinking to the bottom of the ocean, Columbus ordered his men to dock at the nearest island, which happened to be Jamaica, where they would wait for rescue.

The native people living there, impressed by these strange newcomers, were happy enough to provide shelter at first. So they gave them food, fresh water, almost everything they’d ask for. They were fascinated by the shiny trinkets and the loud whistles they would get in return for corn, fish, and housing.

In the meantime, the great explorer spent his time looking through his astronomical table charts in order to calculate when their rescue would arrive. Among these were two specific volumes that almost every explorer used to navigate himself on the open sea, including Vasco da Gama during his expeditions: the Perpetual Almanac of Abraham Zacuto and the Ephemerides, a recent volume of astronomical charts composed and published by Johannes Müller, a distinguished German astronomer and mathematician later celebrated by his Latin name Regiomontanus.

Months passed and the native inhabitants tired of these “fair” transactions, and drove Columbus and his crew back to their ships, not wanting to provide them with supplies anymore. Without food, fresh water, or any rescue in sight, their end was near.

Luckily enough, in between these pages filled with accurate information about the sun, moon, and the planets, as well as their position and detailed instructions for star-guided navigation, the famous explorer found a forecast for a total lunar eclipse, which was just around the corner, on February 29, 1504.

Considering that the tribe that recently drove them away would not take such an event for granted and reminded by a biblical verse “The sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes”-Joel 2:31, Columbus thought of a solution and asked for a meeting with the natives to try something out as a last resort.

At the appointed meeting, petrified and fearing for his safety, he told them that the Christian God was displeased by their conduct and unwillingness to provide goods anymore, and would show a clear sign in the hours to come, after which He would unleash his wrath upon them. Although not fully certain if his understanding was correct, the moon rose exactly as predicted, only to turn red right after and seem to grow vague in the sky.

Natives who had been unimpressed with Columbus were running from every corner with supplies begging him to restore the moon. And he did, after first telling them he would have to ask his deity if He would reconsider. So with the help of an interpreter, Columbus told them to wait, while he prayed in private. Back in his chambers, he consulted with his sandglass, and assisted by Regiomontanus’s writings, cleverly measured the time needed for the moon to lose that reddish hue of refracted light and come to its natural self.

And as this was just about to happen, he returned to the shore and informed them that his God had agreed, as long as they would keep him and his men fed and safe. In exchange, his God promised to punish the raiders and pillagers in his own way later on.

On the next day and over the course of the next year, they kept their word up until June 29, 1504, when a Spanish ship finally arrived to rescue Columbus and his stranded men.
This story, Jake, remind me of this poem

In August 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. October 12th they sighted land, And set their feet upon new sand.
daisyjean wrote: This story, Jake, remind me of this poem

In August 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. October 12th they sighted land, And set their feet upon new sand.


In 1492 Columbus crossed the Atlantic. One year later he went home, crossing the Atlantic again.

In that very instance, he became history's first double-crosser!
Someone who is brave to do so :wink:
tracalee wrote: The theory of mankind evolving from apes was proven wrong or impossible based on a new science being genome/DNA


Incorrect. The study of our genome shows that we share elements of our DNA with apes PROVING that both evolved from a common ancestor.
So tell me, where did Apes come from? Or our Ancestor? :P
daisyjean wrote: So tell me, where did Apes come from? Or our Ancestor? :P


The tiny bones of the inner ear are of the same configuration as those in the gill of a fish, proving that long before we were apes, we were fishes. Each species devolves back to just 1 common ancestor, the parent of every creature, be it bird, fish, lizard or mammal
So does this mean we breath through our ears? :lol:

Now tell me, where did the fishes come from? :mrgreen:
daisyjean wrote: So does this mean we breath through our ears? :lol: :


only underwater, petal
ve already answered that :roll: